The Funny Farm

Well, Mr. THING, Jesus did say "If someone strikes you, throw battery acid in his face. [FALWELL 3:19]" So, theologically speaking, the ambitious Mr. Rudd is on pretty firm ground. Syntactically, not so much.

Posted by: Thud at April 14, 2006 08:01 AM

Dear Thud,

You are right it sounds harsh using the terms battery acid, but just imagine being in jesus shoes with lacerations innumerable from your head to your toe, and a crown of thorns adorning your head.

My point is, for someone so spotless and blemish free from sin like jesus, compared to this creep mr. tom it does'nt sound to harsh to use battery acid to clean him up a bit.

I call him mr. thing ha! because he is so confused about morality,truth and honesty that he crawls lower than the maggets.

again I'm sorry but i cant help myself this guy he is a sad case that is all there is to it.long live KING THING!

Posted by: Jeremy Rudd at April 19, 2006 09:49 PM

You imagine it, reich winger. I don't need to pay attention to your pagan occult rituals. I don't need to fetishize my guilt with your ancient symbols, nor your modern adaptation of them to include what must be in plentiful supply in some of the hulks in your back yard.

I would like to know what exactly you base your evaluation of me as being a creep, or lower than "maggets"*. What basis do you have to determine that there is a need to "clean me up" at all?

I would think that most anyone would fall short of your idealized ubermensch, if I read the texts correctly. He was most of the pagan superstitions wrapped up in one bundle, so it's kinda hard to measure up to his standard. Which of course was the point - to allow the priesthood to shame and bully its' sheeple over the eons.

Also: exactly who gave you the right to make that sort of judgement on behalf of your diety? I know of quite a few christians, of various denominations, who would disagree with your interpretations of your diety's wishes. Much less your right to presume to make those judgements yourself with some "cleansing". What gives you the right?

Posted by: (: Tom :) at April 20, 2006 12:20 AM

I received this in my email earlier today, from another of the brothers Rudd. I post it here as I received it:

Hello Tom,

How are you? I was browsing the internet and found your site "The Funny Farm!" wow, what a name. As I read through the countless pages of left-wing trash, I find myself gagging at the toilet. How do you see degrading The Bush Administration and Christian ethics as funny? I don't know if the name of your site was an intended pun just for some of your moronic satire, but why don't you just think up something like "Left-Wing Doves/Baby Killers" that seems like a really good name, ha ha. All you dems are all for slaughtering the babies in countless numbers, yet you feel that it is a "waste of life" to try and work for the bettering of another country like Iraq. You people seem so confused.

Anyways, let me get to the meat of the matter. Here's my question (basically) How do you feel that your ignorant rants are going to help this country? Do you feel that howling in protest to laws that would help to save innocent childrens lives is going to HELP this country? Really, where is the reasoning in that? If you like abortion so much, and you feel it's going to be a noble thing to have, then why didn't you ask your mother to abort you? Hmmm...let's think about that. That question doesn't make much sense, now does it? You couldn't ask her because you couldn't talk, you didn't have a choice in the matter. Which is the exact reason why abortion should be BANNED! These tiny, precious, innocent, unscathed children have no choice in the matter. Their tiny hearts and minds are so pure and so innocent, yet you fight to suck their brains out through a tube all in the name of "Right to Choice".

Sure, you might argue that rape cases are a good reason that we should have pro-abortion laws, but I beg to differ. Women that are raped also have the option to send their baby off to foster care. Atleast the baby will be in the hands of someone that loves them, someone that is actually there for them, and wants to listen to what they have to say when they are old enough (eventually if not straight from the start of going to the home.) Really, in my honest opinion, a woman would atleast want to try and take care of a child under that circumstance. The baby doesn't just belong to some mad rapist, it has her genes in it too. Of course I'm sure your only defense in this matter will be an attempt to degrade my knowledge, grammar, and ettiquette. Seems that's the only defense you have against anyone that stands up against your "Empire of Idiocracy".

Let us touch upon another point. Christianity. You think that every Christian is stuck in the bowels of this "Chimperism" or whatever in the heck that moronic word you used to bash someone else's stance was. You really come up with the funniest of phrases, you know that? Your little coined phrases and names cease to amaze me, they really are funny! Maybe that's why it's called the funny farm. Anyways, back to topic. Have you ever heard of an upright Christian person who bombed a building, or hung someone up on meat hooks so that they could die from loss of blood, and incessantly pass out over and over. Do honest and true Christians ever do this? Well, you don't even know what an honest and true Christian is, so no need to answer that question. I don't want you to blow what few fuses are left up there in that egg shell of yours.

Speaking of terrorist acts, while we're at it, do you want to see this country end up under the clutches of dictatorship? Really and truly, if President Bush hadn't taken a stand, and started the course of events to stop Saddam Hussein when he did, then we'd be in a heap years down the road. Communism spreads like the plague, and I'm going to tell you this, without men in office who will stand up against it, the evil forces that seek to dominate the world will eventually make it to here. Saddam Hussein had a vision, and it was to bring everyone under forced Islamic Worship, and that is Communism. If it hadn't been for all the President's that took a stand and fought these dictators, who knows where we would be today. Heck, this country was bought with blood, I'll defend anyone who seeks to defend mine and yours freedom. I really don't think you're all that brave, you cower behind these ideologies that the world would be a better place if we pulled out and sat back and let these things go on. That is such a terrible stinking shame, it's a disgrace really. Honestly, if you don't like the things that the President has done, why don't you join those whom you defend so jealously. Try hiding behind them for a while, then see where you end up.

Here in America, no one is forced to worship under any set religion. We have freedom of choice, but I can see that freedom of choice hanging on by a few thin threads my friend. If not for Christian hearted people standing up for true Freedom of Religion, then we wouldn't have it today. More and more of these other religions are seeking vantage points, ways to dominate the American way of life, and to be honest, if you want to get down to the facts of the matter, these are terrorists themselves. These people seek to destroy everything that America was founded upon. They are arbitraters (sp?) of the American way of life. They care nothing about our people, our land, or our way of life.

Alas, my words are but a trickle of rain upon dry sand, only to be washed away by the seering heat of those that do not care for the freedoms we have today, but only for the self-righteous gain that they seek to achieve through the Liberal Senatorial persons that they vote for.

I'm sure you'll post this up on your site, just like you did the other Mr. Rudd's. I'm sure you will also degrade and trash me in any way you possibly can, if you do it will not bother me though. The other Mr. Rudd doesn't care what you say about him, either, he won't argue with persons such as yourself because he realizes it is such a waste of time. I feel it is important for me to back my big brother up on the issue, though. He's the easiest going, most intelligent person I know. He's a woodsman, he loves the outdoors, as do I. He loves the things that are pure and clean in this life, he realizes it isn't worth wasting his time on a number of persons such as yourself.

Anyways, post me and bash away if you feel it is necessary. I'll check back to see what you have to say later on.

Regards,
Luke Rudd

(Note: Mr. Tom, I really do feel sorry for you. For one day, you will see the truth of the folly of your ideas. I only hope that you will change your way of thinking before it is too late. Take this as you may, I mean no hatred to anyone. This includes you, it just frustrates me to a great extent to see that people, including you, feel this way. Really, you and I are both on the same path, we seek to change one anothers minds. While it might not do any good, I know it won't stop either of us. Please take my frustrations in stride.)

Again, take care.

The things I do for my readers!

There are a large number of issues I have with this statement, but suffice it to say that I would appreciate if others would care to step into the breach. The confusion regarding clumps of cells and sentient beings is one of the main points of contention I would begin with because it seems to me to be the main focus of the violence directed my way by the brothers Rudd. And a lot about the conflation of things until I'm a baby-murderer who demands that everyone he knows goes out and gets an abortion as often as possible while he worships satan and puts voodoo curses on BabyDoc Putsch*. And mirrors, black pots, dirty kettles, and all sorts of other things more or less relevant to the matter at hand.

Take my fundies, please...

* - and you knew this was all just another excuse to put that into the carnivore and echelon databases again, right?

Posted by: (: Tom :) on Behalf of Luke Rudd at April 20, 2006 06:04 PM

Dear tom, Part 1

It seems you are starting to think more on the atheistic part of your demonic pleasures, don't you think,which was what I thought at first glance of the site, but was not quite convinced.NOW I KNOW!

You ask the question "what makes you think i ought to be cleaned up at all"?
Well,
By all biblical standards we and this inludes every human being that was born is instilled with the adamic nature which is "sin" we are free from this nature until the point of accountiblity in knowing "Right" from "Wrong" at precisely the age of a sixth grader.

Tom, let me tell you that any true christian can tell when you are unclean and unfit for the kingdom of the "Almighty" which makes you (Tom) as filthy rags.

You seem to think that jesus is a fairy tale, that is the funniest thing I have ever heard HA!HA!HA!HA! honestly, you cannot see the light of day around you for that liberal bag blinding you, I'm sure there must be an awful cloud that hangs over you.
Man I'm tellin ya' you bettered wake up, because when jesus splits the eastern sky what a terrible day it will be for those who do not beleive.

I HOPE ALL YOU LIBERAL READERS ARE LISTENING TO, INSTEAD OF LETTING THIS MAN FILL YOUR HEAD WITH IMPARTIALITY and CORUPTION!

My question to you tom is this what makes you think that there is no "GOD,JESUS, HOLY SPIRIT"
An atheist has no future in my opinion, no matter how good things may seem to go there is always the uneventful surprise that just comes out of no where, for no reason at all, but for the christian the road is TOUGH but jesus is right there beside them guiding them in the right direction.

When jesus returns he is coming for the harvest with a double edged sword dividing the wheat (beleivers) from the chaff (unbeleivers).

I may not be the brightest cookie in the world but at least i know enough that there is a god and that jesus died for me and that is one thing that i do not do is mock the almighty.For hell is a dreadful place.

TOM!, your life is touching other lives if you could just see what shame you are placing on yourself you would be ashamed to go in public, I mean really, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? SUPERMAN.
SNAP OUT OF IT MAN!! the whole galaxy in its entirety is but a mere grain of sand in gods hand.

tom, let me tell you buddy "GOD" is an impatient "GOD" he sees what is happening right now everywhere if he decides he has had enough you bettered be ready!!

Your are an intelligent person tom with all those big fancy words and such to degrade "good,honest, and trustworthy people", but what do you gain through hatred, Well quite frankly you gain "NO RESPECT" by no standards.
Although you have gained some attention it will profit you little.
Conclusion

Tom and whatever your last name is i don't know but i just want to take a minute and let you know that I am truly sorry for the way that i talked to you. I am going to be praying for you that things will work out for you and that you will get in church and get to know jesus christ on a one on one basis because without him there is no "HOPE"..

Please accept my sincere apology.I really enjoyed the oppurtunity to communicate with you and witness to you. Just remember when "THE GOING GETS TOUGH" and no one is around there is always someone you can count on "JESUS CHRIST".

If you don't care please remove the first post i sent you,I am ashamed, and this will be my last.You have a good day SIR!

Posted by: Jeremy Rudd at April 21, 2006 12:28 AM

Dear Troll, part 1:

Take your biblical standards, and all the rest of your pagan occult ritualistic kimchee, and stuff it into the nearest waste disposal. That garbage should have never seen the light of day in the first place. I'm glad you can see humor in my doubting of the Jesus fable. You can only imagine how funny I find someone like you who thinks he "knows" all about his "faith", and has bought into this particular brand of population control.

I don't have to follow the rules of your religious insanity. This is America. You should try going over to Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran or North Korea with your brother; it sounds like both of you would be right at home in a country ruled by its' theocrats.

Even if I do grant any respect for the religion you seem to think you are speaking for, none of it would ever go to blasphemous abominations like the brothers Rudd and their twisted interpretation of what their deity tells them to do. Maybe you should consider that it's just a bunch of voices in your heads that is causing you to offer up violence on behalf of your pagan idol.

As for the rest of your fairy tale, I think it is best to leave it up as an example to the saner individuals of what people sound like once they stray from spiritual faith in something larger than one's self to religious fervor to religious insanity. Your apology is a false one; you do not apologize for shoving your heresy in my face - so I reject it categorically. Try being sorry for being an idiot who thinks he has the right to dump his God Squad babble on anyone he pleases.

You should be sorry that you spew hatred and intolerance in the name of your higher being. All I witness here is how crazy humans can get when their religious beliefs become a fanatical fixation for them. I am glad that you can still feel shame; I would suggest that you consider the shame in trying to force your version of religious nonsense, whether they want it or not, on your fellow human beings. Maybe especially when they seem to not want it at all, and they seem to have some understanding of what you're trying to do.

Posted by: (: Tom :) at April 21, 2006 07:42 AM

*sigh* How many times do I have to run into this...a fetus is a LIFE, yes the letter was a little harse I will say that and possibly out of anger (looks at caps locks) okay a lot of anger but still...think about it...if a woman gets an abortion she increases her chances of getting cancer (I'll search and post the URL that says that)and it can mentally destroy some women too (*cough* guilt *cough*).

Posted by: Ginny at April 22, 2006 07:20 PM

*sigh* How many times do I have to run into this...a fetus is a POTENTIAL LIFE, but not a life that is viable on its' own outside of the womb. So it is still a fetus and not yet a human.

And, yes, my replies have been a little harsh, too. They still seem to be ignored by people like you. Funny, that...

I will say that and possibly out of anger (looks at caps locks) okay a lot of anger but still...think about it...if a woman gets an abortion she increases her chances of getting cancer (baloney - please provide something other than discredited studies from world net daily or human event online) (I'll search and post the URL that says that) (you do that, hon - I'll be waiting!!!) and it can mentally destroy some women too (*cough* guilt *cough*).
Posted by Ginny at April 22, 2006 07:20 PM

And no children are ever abused by being brought up by parents who wished they had never had them? No one ever hears "I wish you had never been born" from their parents? And it's better to bring another abused human into the world so they can perpetuate the cycle of abuse?

Abortions are never an easy thing for anyone involved. But can you honestly say that no one has been destroyed by deciding to take an unwanted pregnancy to term? Can you honestly focus on the guilt the someone may potentially have in getting an abortion, while ignoring the problems some have with being forced to bear a child against their wishes? Sorry, that doesn't play well around here...

Posted by: (: Tom :) at April 24, 2006 06:03 AM

Still waiting to see what studies the religiously insane think will support their allegations that abortions increase the risk of cancer.

Not holding my breath, though...

Posted by: (: Tom :) at April 26, 2006 12:21 PM

The 16-year-old who gets an abortion is 200 times more likely to die from breast cancer, as a result of that abortion, than if she had carried the child to term.
-- Dr. Joel Brind, PhD, professor of biology & endocrinology at Baruch College

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Abortion increases cancer risk

DIANE S. DEW © 1993

Reprinted from The Standard 4/6/93 Women who have had abortions have a greater risk of developing breast cancer, The Washington Times reported Friday, and because of the increase in breast cancer risk, women are 200 times more likely to die from aborting their first pregnancy than from carrying the fetus to term.
Delaying childbirth until later in life also increases one's risk, studies show.

Dr. Joel Brind, an endocrinologist and biologist now doing cancer research, was in Washington to bring his findings on breast cancer to the attention of the Congress. He met with both Senate and House staff members during his two-day visit, which was sponsored by the Ad Hoc Committee in Defense of Life, a Washington-based pro-life group.

He has cited 19 other sources [see sidebar], including a 1986 Lancet article which states that "induced abortion before first-term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer."

"A woman who has a baby as a teenager has about a 7% lifetime risk of getting breast cancer, " he said, "but a woman who aborts her first pregnancy has about double that risk -- 15% or more."

"I've been trying to get this in the paper" for a long time, said Dr. Brind, professor of biology and endocrinology at Baruch College of the City University of New York.

Dr. Brind has been studying the abortion-breast cancer link since 1982. He is a Yale graduate with degrees in biology, chemistry and endocrinology from New York University.

"There is a clear relationship documented in medical journals showing that women aborting their first pregnancy are at a much higher risk of developing breast cancer than those who carry their pregnancy to term," he told an audience of "Beverly LaHaye Live" Monday afternoon.

Scientific studies have demonstrated these facts for the last 12 years, but the liberal media have been unwilling to publish the findings, he said. According to the Ad Hoc Committee in Defense of Life, only The Washington Times, Richmond Times-Dispatch and Chicago Sun-Times have run the story.

"This has been known for years now," Dr. Brind said, "But the abortion industry," along with the media, has squelched the facts.

Dr. Brind cited a number of unbiased studies, including:

a 1981 Los Angeles study which found a 2.4-fold higher incidence of breast cancer among women younger than 33 who had had an abortion before a live birth;
a New York study by Dr. Holly Howe that included all upstate and Long Island, New York women between 1976 and 1980 who developed breast cancer before age 40. The study showed a 90% increase among women who aborted their first pregnancy. All 10 women who had had two consecutive abortions developed breast cancer.
a Russian 1978 study published by Larissa Remennick in 1990, indicating that women who had aborted one or two pregnancies had a 200% chance of developing breast cancer. Those with three or more tripled their risk, her study found.
numerous other studies in Denmark, Japan, Canada, Israel, France, and the US found the same link.

Journal articles demonstrating abortion-breast cancer link:

MacMahon B, Cole P, Lin TM, Lowe CR, Mirra AP, Ravnihar B, Salbor EJ, Valaoras VG, Yunsa S (1970) Bulletin of the World Health Organization 43:209-21

Pike MC, Henderson BE, Casagrande JT, Rosario I, Gray GE (1981) British Journal of Cancer 43:72-6

Yuan J-M, Yu MC, Ross RK, Gao Y-T, Henderson BE (1988) Cancer Research 48:1949-53

Brinton LA, Hoover R, Fraumeni JF, Jr (1983) British Journal of Cancer 47:756-62

Rosenberg L, Palmer JR, Kaufman DW, Strom BL, Schottenfeld D, Shapiro S (1988) American Journal of Epidemiology 127:981-9

Howe HL, Schie RT, Baduch H, Herzfeld P (1989) International Journal of Epidemiology 18:300-4

Hirohata T, Shigematsu T, Nomura AMY, Horie A, Hirohata I (1985) National Cancer Institute Monographs 69:187-90

Ewertz M, Duffy SW (1988) British Journal of Cancer 58:99-104

Parazzini F, La Vecchia C, Negri E (1991) International Journal of Cancer 48:816--20

Remennick LI (1989) International Journal of Epidemiology 18:498-510

Stadel BV, Rubin CL, Wingo PA, Schlesselman JJ (1986) Lancet i:436

Soini I (1977) International Journal of Epidemiology 6:365-73

Hadjimichael OC, Boyle CA, Meigs JW (1986) British Journal of Cancer 53:281-4

Russo J, Russo I, II (1980) American Journal of Pathology 100:497-512

Olsson H, Ranstam J, Baldetorp B, Ewers S-B, Ferno M, Killander D, Sigurdsson (1991) Cancer 67:1285-90

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Misc. Breast Cancer Links:

25 foods that fight breast cancer

Breast Cancer: Doctor's Guide to the Internet

Clinical Trials: Johns Hopkins News on Breast CA

These studies, for years, have been published in such reputable publications as the Journal of Epidemiological Community Health, the International Journal of Epidemiology and the British Journal of Cancer.

But the American media, far from pro-woman on this one, have refused to tell the truth.

"The real risks -- over and above the known risks of postponing childbearing -- are abortion before full-term pregnancy and multiple abortions," Dr. Brind wrote in the British Columbia Report March 8.

"The range of increased risk due to abortion before first full-term pregnancy is about the same as the risk attributable to one's mother having the disease (40-100%), and the risk elevation due to multiple abortions (up to 300%) is similar to the range found for women whose mother and sister have been stricken with breast cancer (300-500%)," he said.

According to Dr. Brind's findings, any interruption in pregnancy, whether a spontaneous ("miscarriage") or induced abortion, increases the risk significantly. Abortions that occur earlier in pregnancy are more likely to cause cancer, he said.

"It's dangerous not to complete any pregnancy," said Dr. Brind. "Even if the baby is going to be a goner, for the sake of the mother, is far better to carry the baby to term."

The longer the woman carries the child, Brind explained, the less likely it is she will develop breast cancer, all other risks aside, because of the change in hormonal levels during the later stage of pregnancy.

"But I'm certainly not advocating third-trimester abortions," Brind added.

Breast cancer is caused by excess estrogen, the female sex hormone. Estrogen levels normally increase during puberty and pregnancy, when the breasts are increasing in size, Dr. Brind explained. Any interruption in that level is risky, he said, because the woman's body will lack the counterbalancing hormones produced at the end of pregnancy, whch bring the estrogen level back to normal.

If a woman has an abortion, her risk of developing breast cancer is worse than if she had never become pregnant, Dr. Brind said. The 16-year-old who gets an abortion is 200 times more likely to die from breast cancer, as a result of that abortion, than if she had carried the child to term, he said.

Current estimates on the number of women who will develop breast cancer have been increasing in recent years, from one in 11 just a few years ago, to one in 10, to one in nine, and now one in eight....

"These facts have been known since 1959 or 1960," he added, but "the abortion industry" has attempted to perpetuate public ignorance of the truth. Dr. Brind said "the abortion industry" has several falsehoods it seeks to maintain, for monetary reasons. Included among these, he said, are (1) the lie that it is safer to abort than to carry a child to term; and (2) the lie that there are not enough people to adopt.

"The fact that miscarriages, spontaneous abortions, also have the same effects upon the woman's body proves this is not a random finding," Dr. Brind said. "The effects are the same."

So RU-486, which also interrupts pregnancy, may not be as "safe" as feminists would have us believe. How can they call themselves "pro-woman"? Where have they been all these years, squelching the truth?

"For they are a nation lacking in counsel & there is no understanding in them. Would that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would discern their future!" Deut 32:28 "They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons & their daughters...& the land was polluted with blood..." Psa106:38

Email: Diane@dianedew.com

Posted by: Jeremy Rudd at April 26, 2006 05:24 PM

Abortion Hurts Women: Part 1 - The Mental Dangers
issueThe affer-effects of indu

From Amy Hess,
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The affer-effects of induced abortion go far beyond physical trauma. Child birth and motherhood is a natural part of female life. Abortion, however, is a complete disruption of a natural process. Whatever the reason for their choice, every woman who completes an abortion procedure is a mother who has lost a child. This biological fact is reflected in the negative emotional side-effects experienced by vast numbers of women.

Depression: Women who have gone through with an abortion often find that they suffer from depression and guilt. The guilt can manifest in many ways. Some women experience nightmares, insomnia, eating disorders, and an increase in alcohol or drug abuse.

Post Abortion Syndrome: Some women experience an initial feeling of relief after an abortion. The problem is gone. It's taken care of. If there are any second thoughts, these women repress and deny them. Decades later, however, some event might dredge up deeply buried misgivings. They have babies, or learn they are infertile. Grief can resurface in a variety of forms; guilt, anger, hatred of men, depression, crying, and even suicide attempts.

Suicide: In fact, the suicide rate for women who have had abortions is at least 6 times higher than for women who have not had abortions. A 1987 study of women with post abortion trauma, "A Survey of Psychological Reactions" by Dr. David C. Reardon, found that 60 percent of the women he surveyed had considered suicide, 28 percent had made an actual attempt, and 18 percent had attempted suicide more than once.

On the other hand, women who decide to deliver their babies tend to grow in their desire to live. Deeply depressed women who carry their babies to full term have been found to develop an increased sense of well-being; they have somebody to live for.

The Reality: While abortion is presented as a woman's "choice", few women choose an abortion from a position of strength and conviction. In fact, most women who get an abortion would rather not, but feel they have no other real choice. Society, poverty, career concerns, even family and friends make them believe abortion is the only way. Those women who go through with an abortion because they feel social pressure are often the most devastated by the decision they made.

Spiritual Effects: The shame of having had an abortion causes many women to feel they have committed the unpardonable sin. Unable to forgive themselves, many feel God could never forgive them and so feel rejected by Him. These women either avoid God and Church altogether, or else try to pretend like the abortion never took place.

True Concern: True concern demands compassion on pregnant women caught in a difficult position. Women need to know that there are places they can go for help and support. Those who have already had abortions must also know there are people who will listen to their grief and help them find healing.

For Further Reading:
Read: Abortion Hurts Women: Part 2 - The Physical Dangers

Information and Assistance: "The Abortion/Suicide Connection"
"SUICIDE AND ABORTION, a list of articles and links"
"Psychological

Posted by: Jeremy Rudd at April 26, 2006 05:35 PM

Wead Deft-ringer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jeremy Rudd at April 26, 2006 05:44 PM

Thanks, Ginny, for the linked sources of information that you promised you would send to me to back your claims that abortion causes cancer. Oh, wait - it wasn't Ginny who replied, it was Jeremy Rudd. And there are no links to any of the comments spewed out just above this one. What a surprise!

So, not only do you lie (as you did when you said If you don't care please remove the first post i sent you,I am ashamed, and this will be my last., and then started in with more of your religiously insane propaganda). You also presume to speak for your fellow pagan occult ritualists. Who exactly do you think you are? The next coming of your omnipotent superhuman?

I was wondering if you could provide some links for all of the religious propaganda you vomited into my comments section here. Are any of these puff pieces from WorldNutDaily or Human Events Online? Operation Rescue? I do recognize one of the names in that dreck - Diane Dew. However, that is not a good thing, as she numerous pieces of religious propsaganda that I could link to (see how easy that is?), and her "work" is not based on scientific method, nor is it an unbiased presentation of what little valid data she actually has to "work" with. I particularly like the open letter to the ACLU that Renew America chose to hightlight on their web site to show just exactly how this "expert" sings the same old tired lies from the same old christian hymnal. Yet again.

You are perfectly free to froth about this in the privacy of your own personal space. No one on my side of the debate would ever suggest that you don't have the right to do that. However, I have some serious issues with your presumption that you have the right to control what I say while shoving what I consider to be dogmatic horsehockey in my face whenever and wherever you like. I am also trying to get out the word that feckless abominations like you can't even walk their own talk. No one has answered the questions I asked in my response within this comments thread:

And no children are ever abused by being brought up by parents who wished they had never had them? No one ever hears "I wish you had never been born" from their parents? And it's better to bring another abused human into the world so they can perpetuate the cycle of abuse?

Abortions are never an easy thing for anyone involved. But can you honestly say that no one has been destroyed by deciding to take an unwanted pregnancy to term? Can you honestly focus on the guilt the someone may potentially have in getting an abortion, while ignoring the problems some have with being forced to bear a child against their wishes?

Your position would be a lot less shaky if you at least made some attempt to respond to the points I am making, as opposed to lecturing me on what you think is right. In my own house, so to speak. Besides that whole presumption to speak on behalf of your Invisible Cloud Being, I would think that a little less hubris and a little more substance (the bible says so is semantic noise, not rational point of debate, 'round these parts) would be in order. If you intend to actually try and do what it is you claim to, and weren't just a lying Putsch sycophant trying to slime something you don't agree with.

Finally, I would think that someone who professes to have christian beliefs would not stoop to name calling and abuse instead of thoughtful commentary and discussion. It has been a long time since someone has stood up to you pagan occult ritualists and addressed you in a manner similar to the way you talk about those who you don't approve of. Funny how you think it's okay to call others wead deft-ringers (what the heck is that, by the way? I've heard of barking moonbats, but that's a new one on me...) or many other things much worse, depending on religious, sexual, or deviant behavior if the individual concerned. Yet you get offended when others refer to you as pagan occultists, or religiously insane. Just more of the hypocrisy that should be expected when dealing with theofascists, I guess...

Take your blasphemy elsewhere, abomination. Have you looked at your friends the imams over in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran lately? They sound so much like you. Almost as though you're two sides of the same coin or something...

Posted by: (: Tom :) at April 27, 2006 05:24 PM

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What good would it do for the Funny Farm to try and talk to de-ranged mentors like me? about discussion.

Would I listen when others tell me to stop with my insane ramblings and try to respect others requests?

People need to listen to each other, and stop pretending that they know what God is telling them.

It makes god angry to see such things go on like faux worshippers abusing his imagined authority and thinking they have the right to lecture others on ethics and morality.

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings

I'm just brainwashed into harrassing others about peoples souls?

I believe Your soul is what lives forever. I wish I could understand that it's not my place to lecture them about this unfounded belief that I have.

I believe that flesh and blood cannot enter what I conceive of as heaven. I believe that it exists, too, and that anyone who doesn't should be harrassed by me non-stop until they agree with my set of occult superstitions.

at this late hour if I knew for a fact that someone would get saved from descending into the same twisted superstitious nonsense I bought into, then I would be the happiest man alive!!!!!!!.

Posted by: Jeremy Rudd, commenting after he has been asked to stop peddling his religious insanity here at April 28, 2006 01:50 AM

i think, TOM you are a selfish idiotic bastard who is TRYING to KILL children. no i am not insane i am a person standing up for my religion. may god destroy whatever fowl beast what is within you!

Posted by: Zepie at April 28, 2006 03:40 PM

Think of the lives your destrying. look at what your standing up for. immagen if you were a child of whom was accidental-only alive due to rape, and you wernt there. immagen, would you rather be dead, because of abortion or alliave beacuse of love? just put that in your mind TOM.

Your views discust me.

Posted by: Zepie at April 28, 2006 03:50 PM

Look* at the lives your philosophy is destroying, today. Look at what you're standing up for. imagine if you were a child of whom was accidentally alive due to rape, and you were abused by your mother, who hated you from the moment she knew you had started growing in her womb, and never hesitated to tell you so? And then you were mentally, emotionally, and physically abused from the time you went to grade school. Along with your mother. By the man who raped her in the first place. Who is of course, your dear old dad.

Imagine, would you rather be dead, because of abortion or alive because of sadistic religious insanity? And then get abused for the rest of your life, and be unable to do anything about it? Worse yet, be expected to be glad about being given the chance to work on the plantation for the rest of your life?

Just put that in your mind, troll. Your views disgust me. Your bestial clinging to such heresies. Your black and white prejudgements about fornicators and godless liberals and a host of other issues, your desire to enact those unjust rules because your sacred parchment should be the law of the land, and your jump off to the extreme example of a worst case scenario with regards to the debate at hand is not scoring points for your argument.

I don't personally want anyone to have to have an abortion, ever. Honest. But if someone I know and care about decides that she's going to have one, I'll do everything in my power to make the process as easy on her as possible. Because, no matter what you or I or anyone else can ever imagine what any sort of process like that might be like, anyone who has to make the choice should be given the chance to make it themselves. Everyone has the right to try and make their own decisions. And everyone has to bear the responsibility for their own decisions themselves. In the end you yourself have to deal with the consequences of your own actions.

So, hey, feel free to make some viable suggestions. But throwing blood or shoving pictures of dead fetuses in my face or posting info on the net or any of that whole violation of someone else's rights because you imagine your Invisible Cloud Being said that's the way (s)he wants it to be is a little much in my eyes. So is legislating your religious insanity in the courts of the land. Even though that's the way both of our fathers and our fathers fathers and so on back to the dawn of recorded history have done it. Possibly why some consider me to be somewhat liberal...

Also, your inability to even consider using proper spelling and grammar, combined with the lack of rational debate skills, and rational debate points gets you two strikes on the first go, dude...

* - you need a NYTimes login to read the article.

Posted by: (: Tom :) at April 28, 2006 05:00 PM

Why should i even bother to even try to spell correctly on such a discusting site? also i have problems with spelling, so i dont realy care what you say.

Why should I even try to repsond in a thoughtful, reasoned manner, and discuss the matter at hand with civility and dignity? Why shouldn't I just stomp all over someone else's virtual space, ranting and raving and carrying on like an absolute idiot, and breaking all of the virtual furniture? I also have problems with accepting anyone else's reasoning, unless they unequivocally agree with every fiber of their being with absolutely everything I think my Invisible Cloud Being stands for. And I get to tell everyone what my Invisible Cloud Being stands for. So I still really still won't, like so many of my fellow theofascists, actually enagage in any, you know, debate about anything around here. I just like flinging poop all over the place.

?Pepite, Pepite, no! No come la taco la trabajar!

Posted by: Zepie at April 29, 2006 07:27 AM

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christians seem to believe that their superstitions should carry the weight of law. Maybe because they can't con enough of the populace into believing in them voluntarily.

So when they run into attitudes that they don't believe in, some of the fanatical amongst them will start doing everything in their power, including violating the rules they want to impose on others, in order to stop those attitudes from becoming tolerated by anyone - not just the others in their cult that heed their wicked ways.

The only thing that they seem to care about is being able to come into others' personal space, spew their insane dreck, and force everyone else in the room to agree with their opinions, and accept them as the laws of the land.

Does this ring any bells with people who have lived in an Islamic Republic? Cause it sounds an awful lot like that Sharia thang I keep on reading about...

Posted by: zepie at April 29, 2006 07:39 AM

...and we have our second Reich wing gtheofascists who thinks my comments section is a forum for his religiously insane tripe. Hope he likes the way his comments look after I'm done with them. Then again, he'll probably never know...

Oh, yeah - and, I've left this comments section open for longer than usual, and it's time to close it for comments. So now, I'm going to suddenly stop this game...

Posted by: (: Tom :) at April 29, 2006 08:46 AM